Comments on: The Faithfulness of Jesus Christ, Pt. 1

By: July 2012 Biblical Studies Carnival « Reading Acts

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[...] Gombis has two posts on The Faithfulness of Jesus Christ (Part Two) reflecting on the “lively exchange” between John Barclay and Richard Hays [...]

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Around the Blogosphere (07.20.2012) | Near Emmaus — Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:01:24 +0000

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By: timgombis

timgombis — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 19:35:08 +0000

I’m not convinced by that, Allen, though I do know that Hays reads it that way, along with a few others. I completely resonate with the larger theological construction, but I don’t see Paul citing the Habakkuk text that way.

By: Allen Browne

Allen Browne — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:28:23 +0000

Tim, what do you think of Douglas Campbell’s suggestion that Paul read Habakkuk Christologically, i.e. he took ‘the righteous one’ as a reference to Jesus (perhaps as the representative person for Israel) who lives (despite the powers) because of his faith/faithfulness (vindicated by resurrection), with the consequence that we (who are in Christ) live (participate in his life) also?

By: timgombis

timgombis — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:14:13 +0000

Indeed, Jason, I think I’d agree.

By: timgombis

timgombis — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:05:42 +0000

We’ll be reading those and others this fall in Galatians class, Gary. Indeed, it seems that theological factors are most pivotal for which way one leans on this one.

By: Jason Staples (@jasonstaples)

Jason Staples (@jasonstaples) — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:37:37 +0000

One more thing, Tim. Take a look at the textual history of Hab 2:4 and you’ll see that there was some question over whether “his faithfulness” in “the righteous will live by his faithfulness” in Hab 2:4 referred to God’s faithfulness or the righteous one’s faithfulness. Some texts and translations go one way, some go another. Interestingly, Paul’s quotation of Hab 2:4 keeps it ambiguous. I’ve long suspected that was intentional.

By: Gary T Meadors

Gary T Meadors — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:29:52 +0000

One of the great illustrations that contextual and theological analysis is required to pose an interpretation of the genitive !! As you know…so for others…the two original articles on this by Hays and Dunn at the SBL were published in the _SBL Seminar Papers_ series. Classic stuff….